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If you do then watch this video. I would love to hear your thoughts and an honest debate here about this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?...
Posted on 10/11/08, 11:10 am
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Reply #11 - 10/12/08  10:43am
" Free here's more on the video and what it is about.

The Democratic and Republican two party systems were born of the Andrew Jackson presidency. Andrew Jackson's legacy was ending the Central Banking System that had already gained control of our money.
Historians will all agree a particular event that sticks out as leading to the Revolutionary War was King George III's attempt to outlaw the interest free, independent currency being used by the Colonies, thereby forcing them to accept a paper bill issued by the Central Bank of England, at interest. This is the entire argument against the Central Banking System. It charges the government interest to borrow money from the bank in order to finance the need for a currency.
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Woodrow_Wilson "
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Reply #12 - 10/12/08  12:41pm
" I watched it last night, and I thought it made some valid points. I am not so sure about some of them, but it definitely put some in better perspective. I have always agreed about our poor public schools and the media keeping us in submission with fear. I wonder if Aaron Russo's conversation with Nick Rockefeller really happened.
This film definitely makes a sequence of proverbial light bulbs go off. I thought the way they brought up the 9/11 aspect seemed too much, too soon in the film. However, I always agreed that this enemy we are fighting is such a broad one, and how will we ever win? Of course there will be civil unrest in the countries we invade, our "enemy" fighting us by an means possible. Perhaps this film is correct, this "war on terror" was never meant to be won, but dominated and controlled...the new world order. Scary shit my friends, scary shit.
Those in power butchered the ideals our forefathers fought for, and the American public is too uneducated to know what those ideals even were. We were never meant to invade countries at a whim and become world police, especially when we cannot even take care of our own.
I also believed our government drove the nails in the coffin with the Patriot Act and the wars we waged. We are so far deep in our shit (or should I say THEIR shit) it makes one ask, is it too late?
To make this even more depressing, I will leave you wih a great quote...

"We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."
~George Orwell, 1984 "
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Reply #13 - 10/12/08  1:16pm
" Take what you want from the video and leave the rest but in my opinion it is an important educational lesson and timely too; if you want to understand what is going on with the financial collapse of our world markets.

And here's a thought on John McCain. The Supreme Court is now clearly a corporatist group. They side with corporate interests 5 to 4 on almost all of their decisions. During the next presidency there is more than an average chance that the next president will appoint replacements for the bench. Kevin how do you feel about one more corporatist Supreme Court justice being appointed? Although a small part in this sordid mess it does portend to continue their agenda. "
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Reply #14 - 10/12/08  5:20pm
" Thank you all for your comments on this video. It is sad that more people have not watched this video. I can't help but wonder how Obama and McCain might fit in to this. I just think that we would be so much better off with a third party in control though just in case. To bad that will not happen. "
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Reply #15 - 10/12/08  6:03pm
" I watched the video under a different thread... 'Central Banks and their String Puppets'.

http://dailystrength.org/c/War_Ter...

I agree with everything stated in #11, #12 and #13.

Also -- and I realize not everyone is inclined to keep up with my tangents -- I do believe there is a certain hopelessness achieved by the the situation we are in that leads to depression. Financing our own slavery is an unnatural state... whether or not we are aware of it.

That depression, and the fear that is arises out of ignorance, is what keeps people from acting or challenging the system. "
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Reply #16 - 10/12/08  6:26pm
" Insightful and frightenly true. "
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