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Voices - delusional?
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For those of you who hear voices....do you think that the voices are real or imaginary - delusional or do you believe what you hear is real?
Posted on 04/15/08, 05:04 am
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Reply #11 - 04/24/08  4:46pm
" Thankyou for posting. I'm going through the same thing right now. I keep thinking their real when everyone around me says there not. That means if you calculate 100 people to just me. Then theirs only a 1% chance they are real. It's believing their not real that's the hard part. One of things about voices in your head is sometimes they get you to do the wrong things, believe in something that's not true or just flat out torture you. I know not believing in them will make my life better but there are a number of times where I just give in. "
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Reply #12 - 04/25/08  2:54am
" delusionals r u feel what is happening is real u know they r fake but still feel what is happening is real and true "
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Reply #13 - 04/25/08  2:54am
" actually dont know if they r real or fake lol "
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Reply #14 - 04/30/08  12:40am
" my mental health nurse said it is a quirck in the brain a short circuit i am on geodon and i haven't had any problem with them since mcate "
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Reply #15 - 05/01/08  8:09pm
" That's the thing, when I'm really "kneedeep", we'll say, in a psychotic episode, everything is real and true, truer and more real than anything else in the world. When I am deeply in a paranoid state, nothing can prove to me that I am not being persecuted, even if a raybeam shone down from the heavens and said, "You are safe, the CIA does not have a file on you," etc., I wouldn't believe it for a second, it would just instantly be incorporated into the systematic delusions as more proof that I am being persecuted, this time, by a raybeam telling overt lies.. see what I mean? But I'm lucky, on the other hand, in that I rarely get that bad, and it hasn't happened in a while..

I have actually rarely hallucinated, or if I hallucinate, then I'm really not aware that they are hallucinations. I never even thought of the possibility, and frankly I don't have time to investigate such things. Cause, yeah, the world does seem pretty hostile to me, and weird things happen, but I mean I never thought that maybe I was seeing or hearing things not actually there.

Forgive me if I find my own condition somewhat humorous at times, though I never laugh at anyone else's pain, just my own, it's how I relieve the stress sometimes. Cause I was recently asking myself, "What constitutes proof, scientifically?" And it got too complicated so I put the interrogation on the backburner for now. I mean I think I could fare pretty well in proving any number of things scientifically, I am an engineer by trade (sound eng.) and a professional painter. Rhetoric (the art of persuasion) is part of what I do. But I would never use it for evil... I just think that if I was able to tell the difference all the time between a delusion, an hallucination, and objective reality, then I wouldn't have been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, but with an anxiety disorder such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, or panic disorder, etc., what they used to call a "neurosis" as opposed to a "psychosis" (and that was the criterion to make the difference, awareness or nonawareness that one's cognitions are absurd or illogical, untrue, etc.)

As usual, I don't know if this helps.. I just think that anything goes in the realm of beliefs.. If believing something or seeing something, etc., does not cause extreme dysfunction or stress, anguish, trauma, or pain, then thank goodness, it's not a sickness, it's a blessing. I honestly believe that. Or else psychiatrists would have to tackle all world religions and superstitions, myths, etc., and prove that they were all a "sick man's dreams", which will never happen, because those beliefs bring people meaning, peace, sobriety, happiness, joy, truth, etc.

On another note, there are accounts out there of mediums who say they have been able to "connect" with a nether-region, like another wavelength or something. That's never happened to me, and I'm uncertain about what I believe in those cases. Take Edgar Cayce, he would enter a sleeplike state and would do "readings", and for forty years he developed one of the most stunning philosophical + spiritual system/doctrine.. Trust your intuition, and "follow your bliss" as Joseph Campbell, great forerunner of comparative mythology, would say.. if it ain't broke don't fix it, or in other words, if it doesn't cause you traumatic pain.. I dunno, I would just be wary of manic states, of those grandiose thoughts that can creep in, like when I think I'm Napoleon or someone like that. Cause that's a form of ecstasy, it just hurts quite a bit after the downer hits.. the post-psychotic depression... "
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Reply #16 - 05/02/08  12:21am
" both, sometimes i know it doesn;t make sense, but it seems soo real, it all just seems real and its hard to diferentiate reality from not.... sorry I'm not helpful am i? but its both for me.... "
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Reply #17 - 05/03/08  8:11am
" I guess it's hard to know - especially when they seem so so real.

Sometimes I think they are a chemical reaction causing me to hear essentially whatever I 'want' to hear - my insecurities, i guess.

Other times I think we are tuning into something very real - more than most people have the ability to hear. But because we don't understand this other realm, the messages become very distorted...

I guess for me, medication really helped quiet them down so I have to lean more towards them just being a chemical reaction in my brain.

But essentially I agree with what Jonas wrote - if a belief isn't harming you or causing you to harm anyone else, then there's essentially no harm in believing it! "
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Reply #18 - 05/05/08  12:22am
" It fluctuates, really. Sometimes it feels like they are in my head, but not speaking like my inner voice would (the voice you think with). Other times, they seem like they are nowhere near me, and are hard to figure out if they are real or delusional. "
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Reply #19 - 05/07/08  9:34pm
" I can speak to god. I have a girl named Sarah who has talked to me and showed me what to do in many situations. I believe she is my angel, and that God is real, no matter what people will ever tell me I will always believe, and you the right to too. "
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