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It may be helpful to consider what helps us when we know we are in a bad relationship.
We have got to the point of recognising that a lot is not going right in our relationship. But what then? This is a point we get to and then we have to ask this "What now?" question. It can be rather like being caught in a sudden thunder storm with lots of lightning. One is in a field and getting soaking wet. One is miles from anywhere and nothing is nearby for shelter except a tall tree. Ok, what now? Same sort of thing. Of course in a relationship it is more complex. Some people tell us what to do. But how can they know what WE personally should do. As the saying goes "Before you judge, walk a mile in MY shoes". And what does TELLING (in effect, ORDERING) us what to do IMPLY? It can imply many things but some implications seem to be that: 1. The person knows better than us. 2. We aren't sane, intelligent, capable people. 3. We do not have the right to make our own decisions. 4. Decisions are self-evident and are not based on a reasoning process that has individual preferences involved (and to which one has a RIGHT). We who are trying to decide what to do know we are confused. That is normal WHENEVER a person is trying to make a decision, even about which dress to buy. It doesn't mean we should be told what to do OR that being told is helpful. As just the implications I listed above show, being told is NOT helpful. So what is helpful? This is what this post is about. I started a sub group of this Physical and Emotional Abuse community - http://dailystrength.org/groups/he... (Help in Deciding To Leave) to help those of us trying to deal with deciding what to do. Unfortunately you can't even see the group from the Physical & Emotional Abuse Community pages so not many people find it and we need a certain number to get things going. But I'm not looking for members by making this post of mine. I am just making the point that we abused men and women, and some younger people, need assistance to work things out FOR OURSELVES and my group was a way to try to get this going for us. It is so easy to tell people what to do. We can mean very well in doing so and just do so because we see other people do it and think it is ok or normal practice somewhere. But it does not help. And please listen to the messages you send when you give advice. The person you are talking to certainly does. And they are also not getting the help they need. What help do they need? Posted on 05/07/08, 10:05 pm |
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Gentle persuasion in a healthy direction. A soft nudge instead of a giant push. Most of us have been where a newbie is and can see a path much more clearly. Sort of like being able to see the forest for the trees. Here's a story I think clarifies my position.
A woman is walking down the street and falls into a deep hole. A doctor walk by. She yells "Doc, I am down here in this hole. Can you help me?" The doctor writes a perscription and throws it down into the hole and leaves. A priest walks by. She yells "Father, I am down here in this hole. Can you help me?" The priest writes a prayer and throws it down into the hole and leaves. A friend of the woman walks by. The woman in the hole yells "HEY. I am down here in this hole. Can you help me?" The friend jumps down into the hole with the woman. The woman says "What, are you nuts? Now we are *both* down here in this hole." The friends says "Yes. But I have been down in this hole before and I know the way out." Yes it is easy to just say get out - leave now - this relationship you are in is unhealthy/unsafe/dangerous. It doesn't take anyone's personal situation into account. Having said that, a lot of times people in abusive relationships don't even know they are in a hole let alone the fact that there *is* a way out. Sometimes it is just hearing someone else say "Get out - what are you waiting for?" that motivates. Sometimes its not. I think it is an inherent part of a site like DS that some of the advice is gentle and some isn't. Still I agree with what you say that a confrontational manner is counterproductive.
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Wow, queenvalerier, that story was amazing. What a gem ! I just love it and gained so much from it. I'm going to find a picture frame for it.
And thank you for replying to this post. I was wondering why it sank like a lead balloon. And I've been going through so much doubt lately, plus certain personal attacks (only from one person on DS), that I have been seriously wondering if I was just a load of crap. So maybe I'm not as bad as I thought. And I'm always wanting to work out good ideas. Knowledge helps. Especially when one has a number of liars, abusers, disturbed people and manipulators in one's life, as I do.
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No, not crap at all! The only one who truly knows your heart is you. The only one who can make your decisions is you. The only time I ever tell someone to get out of their relationship no matter the cost of what is left behind is if the person is in true physical danger. That is very specifically what I did. You have probably heard me say this before but I left behind a $600K house, $500K in the bank in liquid assets and 3.5 mill in a retirement savings account. Designer clothes in the closet and a Porshe in the garage. When I finally escaped and was driving away I had 2 broken fingers, a broken nose, 3 cracked ribs, 2 black eyes, missing a tooth, bleeding from a split lip and more cuts and bruises than I care to think about. I have the pictures. And I STILL think of that as the best day of my life. I walked away from all of it. Never asked for anything in the divorce. Not one red cent. As far as I was concerned it was blood money. My blood - his money. When someone is in true physical danger then yes, I will tell them to get out and get their butt to a shelter no matter what. Anything short of that deserves true reflection and self awareness before taking action.
Glad you like the story! I think it speaks volumes.
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Boy, you did it tough and went through a lot. I'm sorry to hear it.
And thanks for the kind words, and the words per se. I still need building up, or rebuilding when I start to crumble. And what you said is so true: we are the only ones who know our heats and typicaly need true reflection and self awareness before taking action.
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