What is Meth Addiction

Methamphetamine (also referred to as methylamphetamine or desoxyephedrine) is a synthetic stimulant drug used for both medicinal and recreational purposes (see Legal issues). Metha...

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Is it really possible to quit without treatment?
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Hi everyone, I just joined this site about a week ago - long story short, my husband has been using meth for the last few months after a major relapse - once I found out that he was using, often in our house while I was at work or at night while I was sleeping - we attempted to talk through it for a few days but ended up with me asking him to leave after I knew it was continuing to happen. Anyway, he says that he has stopped using and that he doesn't need to go to rehab again - he's been to treatment 3 times before for alcoholism - and that meth is different, that the cravings are all in your brain, not your body and that he is strong enough to overcome them. I have no intention of getting back together with him, but we do have a daughter together and he is asking to see her. I don't want her in his care at this time - I also don't want to stop him from seeing her - any suggestions? Right now, I've made sure that I'm present when he's seen her. What are the signs I should be looking for if he's still using or coming off a binge? I am worried that I won't know the signs to look for as obviously I am pretty naive to have this happening in my own house and not even realize it. I plan to tell him that he cannot see her on his own for now, until I educate myself further on this drug, speak to my counselor about it, and when he can prove to me that he is clean, but in the meantime I would appreciate anything you have to offer. This is a pretty sensitive topic since our daughter and he have a pretty close relationship and she's only 8 so I am trying to be really careful about what I tell her - just being honest without stating too many facts for her young mind to have to try to comprehend.
Posted on 02/18/08, 12:02 pm
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Reply #1 - 02/18/08  7:32pm
" Yes it is possible i did it with out treatment. But the person really has to want to quite to be able to i think. Some signs is really dialated pupils. Jittery always moving around cant really sit still always doing something. Um some people will have spots on there face that they constantly pick at or anywhere really. when coming down they are usually irratable, sick, another sign that they are on is that they will have bags under there eyes if using alot. I hope this helps. Thats what i remember from when i used and saw my friends and stuff. "
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Reply #2 - 02/18/08  10:21pm
" Hi rainygirl, the typical signs of using are the mood swings, fast speech and not staying on one topic, as christina said, the bags under the eyes or looking gaunt, bein jittery, and definitely not eating... I don't blame you for being present when he visits to see your daughter. Stay strong for your daughter. "
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Reply #3 - 02/20/08  5:57am
" when hes coming off he will be grumpy, sleep for days and sweat it out. depending on the binge he may be delirious, paranoid, really odd.. when he is using he doesnt necessarily have physical signs, not everyone will have sores and weight loss.. but he will leave for hours on end for meaningless tasks, or he will busy himself around the house. he may hole up for days.. most likely not eating.. good luck and if you need any advice please e-mail me- i have been on both sides, a user and a loved one of a user. "
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Reply #4 - 02/20/08  1:27pm
" Everything that comes out of a mouth of an addict is a lie. Remember this well.

Let him go, you cannot love him clean and sober neither can your son. Regardless of what the TV shows say. "
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Reply #5 - 02/20/08  2:49pm
" I strongly believe that everyone needs some type of program. People do not just wake up one day and decide to qiut. You can believe that if you want but its kind of like your chances of winning a mega millions lotterry. It would be nice but most likely it is not going to happen. Do not take the chance. It is a danger to you and your family. Make him prove it to with actions not words. When I was out there in that type of lifestyle I could see my children but my ex-wife and there grandparents did not allow me to take them because of the life "I CHOSE". I was a danger to them and the people I associated myself was a danger to them. I know today that was the best choice they could of made. I have a great relationship with my children today and a healthy relationship with my ex-wife. I have a nine year old daughter and they told her everything I did when she was seven. I did not agree with it but it force me to really think about what I was doing with my life and what affect I was having on the people who loved me. Oh yeah! If it sounds like he is telling you lie it probably is. I hope and pray you make the right choices for you and your family. "
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Reply #6 - 02/20/08  3:45pm
" Supervised visits then amendments to your seperation and visitation rights he should be required to give a urine specimine at anytime at your request and if he disagrees then as Jeff Foxworthy would say it "heres your sign".Oh and Im sure watching him pee in the bottle wont be a problem make sure you implement that so that you will know if he is using speciualy on the day of payday or the weekends.Now I know your gonna hear a lot of people say thats insane but for him to expose your child to meth and its keepers is more insane. "
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Reply #7 - 02/20/08  3:57pm
" Oh Im sorry I didnt answer your direct ? yes its possible to get and stay clean without help but that void is gonna be there and whatever fills it culd be bad or hopefully be extra good like a relationship w/ kids, mom, moms new boyfriend, and life it self goodluck my dear and write me if you need me write me if you dont Ill be there....Luv Deral "
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Reply #8 - 02/21/08  10:33am
" Thank you all for your kind and supportive responses and signs for me to look for whether or not he is still using. I have not let him see our daughter by himself and have made it clear to him that at this time, it will remain that way, until he can prove to me that he is clean and staying clean - AND not until I am completely comfortable with the idea. I won't risk putting her life in danger. "
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Reply #9 - 02/21/08  2:42pm
" Very good lady friend stay w/ your guns and always remember we are here 24-7 let us know if you need help...Deral "
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Reply #10 - 02/22/08  2:24pm
" Yes it is possible to overcome this w/out treatment only if he is serious about it is doing it for himself and not anyone else. My husband was a heavy user for about four years the first two i had no idea. It eventually got out of control and we split up. He moved out and only got worse. After about four months we got back together and he tried to go to rehab but noone would commit him because he was not suicidal. So he had to do it all on his own. Trust me it was not an easy task. He slept endlessly for what seeemed like weeks. He had to totally disconnect from all his friends and stay strong. After about six months things changed so drastically it seemed like a miracle he hasn't used in almost three years and is doing well. As far as your daughter goes u r right about in being there with her when they visit but definitely do not take her away from him for my husband our children were his inpiration to make the change "
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