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Please help me out. I need to know if I'm losing my mind, or is this a sign my husband is cheating on me?

So me and my husband went out of town last weekend. I was really looking forward to spending some quality time with him and having a much needed get away. Turned out to be quite the opposite. He was texting with one of my best friends (we'll call her Laverne) the entire weekend. I'm not talking about one here and there...I'm talking about 124 messages on Saturday and 146 messages on Sunday. Where we went is about 3 hours from here. We were staying at my other friend's house. We'll call her Shirley. Laverne came over Friday night to see us. Shirley and I went to bed around 2:00, my husband and Laverne stayed up the entire night talking. Shirley got up around 7:00 to go to work, my husband and Laverne were STILL up talking. Shirley took Laverne home, husband came to bed. I woke him up around 11:00 to go for a drive with me. At this time, I wasn't really thinking of anything suspicious. Sure the staying up all night thing was a little weird as they haven't done that before, but I put it aside. The entire day, from 11:00 until we went to bed at midnight, he was texting again. I was starting to get bugged by this. He ignored a party that night, sat in the living room, texting away. Laverne was at a different party. He doesn't text that much. Shoot, he'd have about 10 per day, and most of them from me. After he fell asleep, I went to look in his phone to try and figure out what was going on. I needed reassurance that there wasn't anything. At this time I wasn't even sure who he was texting with. He cleared the phone out. No messages, nothing. Even the call history was erased. Finally around 3:00 in the morning, a text came in. Of course I took advantage of my comatose husband and looked. It was from Laverne, "Good night, sweet dreams, I love you."

I was really puzzled by this. Why would MY best friend be saying that to MY husband??? I couldn't sleep the entire night. I woke my husband up Sunday morning around 9:30. Said "let's go, I need to get home to do my homework for school." On our way out of town, we met Laverne and her boyfriend at a restaurant for some brunch. Let me tell ya...the new awkwardness between her and my husband was way too obvious. Even Laverne's boyfriend noticed it. We left to head home. Of course, he texted his whole way home. When I asked him who he was talking to, he said, "Nobody really. Just Laverne." A few minutes later, I noticed he got a picture. "Oh, you have a picture! What is it?" "Oh it's nothing" then I noticed he deleted the message. WTF???

We got home, he was still texting with her. He was texting her through dinner. "Honey, remember our rule? No texting or calls while we have dinner." He made that rule because I text a lot with my friends. Later I confronted him, I told him I wasn't comfortable with the amount of talking they have been doing. He paid more attention to Laverne than he did to me. It was very odd, and I wasn't happy about it. I didn't say anything about the message I saw. When I asked what it was that they had so much to talk about, he just said "Oh we're just b.s.ing." Really? Ok.......Then he went on to say it was so flattering to see me get jealous. Jealous??? Try suspicious! I told him I wanted to see his messages. After a struggle, he finally gave me his phone. Of course a lot had been deleted. But there were a few, and I didn't like them. "Oh you were so awesome the other night." "You felt so good." When I asked him what that meant, he said, "Oh she was just talking about how nice it was to hang out this weekend." ....................? He then snatched the phone away from me before I could go into his sent folder to see what he sent to her. A little defensive, IMO.

Monday rolls around. I'm furious. I'm confused. Nothing is making any sense at all what-so-ever. I "watched" our carrier's account online. I was literally watching those two texting back and forth to each other all day. They shared 133 messages. I would text him, he wouldn't reply for about 1/2 hour. During that 1/2 hour, he would be talking to Laverne. I would ask him later why it was taking so long for him to return my message, he would say "Oh I was busy and boss was around." There's another flag. When he got home, I asked how much he talked to Laverne. He said "Oh, only a couple times." Another red flag. I told him I knew he was lying. After I proved to him I had my facts, I told him to prove it to me that I'm wrong. Again, he had deleted messages. I gave him 10 days to move out. Told him he needed to prove me wrong in order to stay.

So we'll see what happens today.

A couple of pointers as to why this is all so weird: He hardly talks to my Laverne. His distance at Saturday's party is weird because all the people at the party are HIS friends, not mine. Laverne is my husband's ex girlfriend from 10 years ago. They led their seperate lives and didn't even talk for those 10 years. It wasn't until last year that they reunited. I'm not a jealous person, I had no problems being friends with her. In fact, she became one of my best friends. My husband's texting habbits aren't anywhere near this high. I do a lot of texting but with random people, not one person. He's lying to me.

Please help me understand.
Posted on 04/22/08, 11:04 am
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Reply #1 - 04/22/08  11:51am
" I'm so sorry but there are so many red flags I cant believe this is just an innocent friendship. The trouble is we create reasonable explenations for behaviour which is not usual or reasonable, because it is very hard to face the painful truth (at least thats what I did). Go with your gut instinct "
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Reply #2 - 04/22/08  11:53am
" Someone said in a post in another discussion, if they don't let you see what they are texting or emailing, they are doing something they shouldn't be doing. I agree whole heartedly. "
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Reply #3 - 04/22/08  11:57am
" P.S. What is the rebuilding marriage site? "
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Reply #4 - 04/22/08  11:58am
" Its like listening to myself before i found our for sure.You so desperatley want this not to be true but he ios def having an affiar i bet my house on this.You need to find proof because he wont admit to you.Ask him outright and ask her they will prob bnoth deny all.I am sorry your going thru this pain but you have to stop this now.Tell him you dont want this contact to continue and her.Then wait and see what he says.There can be no way forward for you until he breaks the contact.I no you dont want to find out for sure because ignorance is bliss but believe me it is better to no for sure then you can start to heal.hugs to you "
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Reply #5 - 04/22/08  11:58am
" What's so frustrating is that he's telling me that I'm over-reacting to texts. That's what is causing me to question myself. I wish there was a way I could catch them red handed. Should I call her? "
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Reply #6 - 04/22/08  12:35pm
" I know this is hard but you need to take some time and think this through.
If you find out they are having an affair would you stay or leave?
Again, I know this is hard during this crazy time but if you are siding with leaving then I would definitely say you need to get positive proof.
That can be from hiring a detective to follow them, putting something like "IAMBIG BROTHER" software on his PC to capture his texts, etc.
I don't know if there is a way to capture cell phone texts but maybe someone else here can help you with that.

Two things, one if you don't have this evidence he is going to keep lying to you because he knows you can't prove it. Two, if you do leave you MAY have evidence to use in court (if you need that).

Just be prepared for what you learn. If he has a PC and uses it and if he is having an affair, I can pretty much guarantee that he will have compromising pictures on it. (since you said she sent him one to his cell phone).

Hope you find nothing.

Also, even if you find nothing. His behaviour is WRONG. YOU should be his focus not someone else and ESPECIALLY not an ex-girlfriend.

Wish you the best. "
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Reply #7 - 04/22/08  12:39pm
" Seems to me if you read what you read you already did catch him red handed. My STBX also did alot of calling/texting with his OW - he went out and got a Cell that I didn't have access too - ie not a "family plan" phone - one just for him. he deleted texts as soon as he read them, I had no access to his bills. He had her in his faves (not me though!) and called her by a "love name" that he used to call me. I really wanted to call her and say "hey so and so, this is so and so #1 - we should chat." He moved out last month... "
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Reply #8 - 04/22/08  12:45pm
" lavendar so did mine! a seperate phone! I am sorry...I didn't want to think my husband was cheating and I made every excuse int he book and I found out my gut was right and he was. If you suspect and to ME from what you said he is cheating. I am sorry to day it because I am a week into my discovery of an affair my H has been having for over a year and it sucks bad but she is an ex of his??? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... "
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Reply #9 - 04/22/08  1:11pm
" I don't think there's any question that he's cheating, is there? "
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Reply #10 - 04/22/08  1:14pm
" You guys are helping me out a lot, and definitely helping me feel more confident in my gut. I definitely want to kick his sorry @$$ out. I mean, come on...My best friend??? WHY? I need to gather the proof for my own satisfaction, and for court if it comes down to it. Colorado is a no fault state, so infidelity has no factor in divorces. I have found a SIM card reader that I will be purchasing. The reader reads EVERYTHING even if it was deleted. Nothing gets deleted off the SIM card. Bizarre about the seperate phones. I really hope my H doesn't go that far. If he does, his crap will be on the porch - that's if I'm "nice." "
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