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This weekend the headstone for my stillborn daughter was set and put in place. I went to decorate and one of the persons who went with me made a comment that the ex-fiancee should be there to see the stone and help decorate the grave. I didn't tell the ex that the headstone was in place. I did not want him there for what I considered was MY time to honor MY baby. I was told that I was wrong to not tell him. Maybe I am; but from my point of view, he never quite understood why this death affected me the way it did, and I would hate to have told him my plans to see the headstone and decorate only for him to behave as though it was no big deal. Now, however, I am wondering if I am wrong to not let him know. A little background on this may be helpful before any advice is given.
First off, losing my child that way was the most traumatic episode of my life. The ex-fiancee, on the other hand, could not understand why. His ex-wife had two miscarriages (before 12 weeks) and they did not have funerals or bury those babies. His ex-wife grieved and so he was willing to make concessions that maybe these things effect women on a more emotional level than they do men (I don't know - it is what he said). He kept comparing my behavior to his ex-wife's. Evidently she healed quicker than I did and he felt I was hanging on for sympathy purposes. I also have had miscarriages before and I grieved but this was different. Please understand, I am not taking anything away from anyone who has grieved a miscarriage - I am talking about MY personal experience. I saw that baby, I held her and she was completely and beautifully formed. On top of that because of infertility issues which make conception highly improbable, that particular baby was an answer to a prayer and I believed she had Divine Protection. When she died, I couldn't make sense of it. Then there is the issue of my age. At 40, it was time to stop playing games with my health for the sake of wanting another child. I had determined that after this baby, I would have the surgery my doctor was recommending which would prevent me from having future children. My baby did not die to to complications from my infertility issues, I developed an infection which got trapped in the placenta, the doctor said it was merely a case of "bad luck". Hence, from my viewpoint, she was not only the answer to a prayer but also a last chance for another child, and her death could have been easily prevented with antibiotics so it made no sense to me. Not only did I lose a child, but the faith I had in my God had failed me, I felt responsible for not pursuing better medical care AND there were no second chances. My ex did not grasp the impact of all that and did not know how to be more supportive and grew increasingly frustrated. After about 3 months, he started distancing himself from me and doing things he should have kept away from. Maybe it was his way of dealing with the situation. He even told people that it couldn't work between us because I had problems. Anyway, I tried to talk to him about this and he refused to hear me out or discuss it at all. He told me that if I thought about it, it would depress me so I should stop thinking about it. How do you control your thoughts? Even though you can supress them, they sneak up on you at the edges of your mind and in this case, it was an all day, every day event - I thought about it constantly. Anyway, this was a major contributing factor to ending our engagement. So should I let him know about the headstone? or will it bring up painful memories for him that he would rather not deal with? or worse yet, will he see it as my way of trying to force him back into my life? We no longer speak and haven't for some months and I have no desire to talk to him; but I can let a third party know to give him the news. I just am not sure if it is appropriate. Without it being so personal, my own advice would be to let him know; but living it, things become much more cloudy. Posted on 12/24/07, 11:12 am |
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Wow, this is such a personal choice. I feel that it was okay to have your time. I do think it might be good to let him know that it's there. Then it's up to him whether he wants to visit it or not. It sounds like it may not be his way to deal with it, but at least if you let him know then you're being considerate. Just my opinion.
(((Hugs)))
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A stillborn child is much different than a miscarriage. It still hurts as a miscarriage, but you had a baby....I am so sorry for your loss...it's not easy. I have never had that happen...but death is hard anyway!
Tell him about the headstone. Tell him where it is, and if he choses to go to it then he can. If he gives your grief about not telling him sooner, or inviting him for the marker service, then inform him that you needed time and space for YOUR grief. Don't let anyone tell you that you are wrong. WE all have grief in our own way. Tell other people that that is YOUR way of grieving of making decisions. If you have the means for breavement counseling please do so. I have had that kind of counseling and it helped me....take care of yourself...take care this Christmas.
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This was YOUR CHILD. You will grieve in YOUR WAY. NEVER, EVER let another person tell you how to feel.
If the father made you feel pressured in any way, do not speak to him about this. Just drop him a postcard or something. Don't allow him to hurt you. This was your Very Personal time. Bless Your Heart (((Hugs)))
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It was your time to spend with your baby. Now that you have done your part maybe you can just let him know that it's in place if he would like to see it. Put it in his court to make the decision because you have already done your part.
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Taffy,,,
I lost a daughter after 16 weeks into the pregnancy.. she was also perfect! My husband caused it, by beating me! My daughter has a name and was buried, cause she was considered more by the hospital than a "mere miscarriage". I also got to hold her and love her! She was so beautiful. She would be 15 now and I like you cannot have anymore children, due to the damage he caused! I don't know if he ever has gone to her grave, however, I will be visiting her after the holidays! I think that you need your own time to greive as you need to,, to hell with him! My daughter would be 15 years old and I still greive! It is my right,, and I loved her regardless of the length of time she lived! Bless you and I am here for you if you need me! Love! Jerrie
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Absolutely it is different. I too have had a miscarriage. But I did not go through labor and physical recovery. I never felt that baby move inside of me. And although I had terrible morning sickness, it was not nearly the same physical experience. I never knew the baby's sex, and never has a NAME. I never got to hold them ect. In some ways it was harder, but still it was more of a loss than a death. Make sense?
He never got it, so I wouldn't have invited him. If he had wanted to be there, he would have asked when the headstone was going to be there, and if you were planning anything. Also nothing is stopping him from having the same type of ceremony himself. And I send my deepest sympathies on your loss.
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Taffy,
You carried that baby girl from the time of conception until the time of her birth. You felt her move, you felt her hiccup, you felt her kick and you felt her sleep..you loved her in an instant. She was every part of you. A man can NEVER experience any of that, however, they do experience very important matters of the heart when they too help to conceive that baby. Your grief is YOURS and should never have been belittled by what he may have experienced previously or even now. I truly believe that you had/have every right to go to your daughter's gravesite by yourself, or with a very dear friend without him. Don't take that special moment away from yourself by questioning it. Know you did the right thing. You can text him or write him, I don't think you should do it 3rd party, and let him make the decision to visit. I am sooooo sorry for your loss. I hope you get counseling, there are some wonderful groups out there specifically for the loss of a child...check with the hospital where she was born if they haven't given you the name of a group. I have worked with Labor and Delivery/post partum although have not personally experienced this loss. HUGS, many many HUGS.
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Thank you for your responses. I will tell a mutual friend who can let him know and he can decide for himself what to do with that information.
Thank you all for validating the intensity of my grief over this loss in comparison to miscarriage. It means a lot. It took me a long time to get the stone in place because of finances, so my loss is a little over a year ago and I am doing much better every day. Gayleh, I did get bereavement counseling and it helped a lot. Counseling is always worth a try no matter the situation. (((((Hugs to all of you)))))
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