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I hear on this site ppl sayin aa doesnt work but i just found the site that dr silkworth who treated thousands of aa memebers before his death at towns hospital and he covers this

Dr. Silkworth’s Rx for Sobriety

Copyright © The A.A. Grapevine, Inc., June 1945

Anyone who tried to impress a drinking alcoholic with the approach, “You can’t have your cake and eat it, too,” would probably draw a scornful, “So what! Who wants any cake? Tony, make it a double this time.”

The same idea expressed as, “You can’t have your bottle and drink it, too,” might get his attention because to a drinking alcoholic a fresh unopened bottle, brimming brightly with abundance, is a symbol of good things to come. He knows well enough, of course, that he can’t drink it and still have it, but he blocks his mind to the inevitability of that horrible moment when the last bottle will be empty.

The untapped bottle remains a symbol to the non-drinking alcoholic, at least to the alcoholic who has dried up in A.A. So long as it stands unopened it represents drinks he has not taken, and the good things of life he has found by not drinking.

Yet now and then a persevering soul tries to have both the figurative and the liquid contents of the bottle. He tries to make an impossible compromise.

In the opinion of a man who has administered personally to at least 10,000 alcoholics, the attempt to make this kind of compromise is one of the most common causes of failure to get a safe hold on A.A.

Dr. W.D. Silkworth, genial and beloved little patriarch at Towns Hospital, New York, for twelve years and now (1945) also in charge of the new A.A. ward at Knickerbocker, also New York, defines it as the “alcoholic double-cross.”

“The majority who slip after periods of sobriety,” says Dr. Silkworth, “having double-crossed themselves into thinking that somehow they can have the unopened bottle and drink it, too. Even though they have been in A.A. and going to meetings, and following parts of the program, they have accepted it with reservations somewhere. They actually have been one step ahead of a drink. Then they began playing around with the notion they can drink a little and still have the good things of A.A. The outcome is an inevitable as the bottle becoming empty once it has been opened by the alcoholic.”

When Dr. Silkworth discusses A.A. “slips” his usually cheerful face becomes serious even a little grim. Through his long years of practice in the field, he has become increasingly sympathetic, but not case-hardened, to alcoholics. He understands what they experience. Having been one of the first in his profession to support A.A. and having guided scores of alcoholics into A.A., he also appreciates the fact that a “slip” for an A.A. involves an extra degree of remorse and misery.


Dr. Silkworth is particularly emphatic on one point.

“Slips are not the fault of A.A. I have heard patients complain, when brought in for another drying out, that A.A. failed them. The truth, of course, is that they failed A.A.

But this mental maneuvering to transfer the blame is obviously another indication of fallacious thinking. It is another symptom of the disease.”

A quick way to get Dr. Silkworth’s appraisal of A.A. is to ask him how he thinks “slips” can be prevented.

“First,” he explains, “let’s remember the cause. The A.A. who “slips” has not accepted the A.A. program in its entirety. He has a reservation, or reservations. He’s tried to make a compromise. Frequently, of course, he will say he doesn’t know why he reverted to a drink. He means that sincerely and, as a matter of fact, he may not be aware of any reason. But if his thoughts can be probed deeply enough a reason can usually be found in the form of a reservation.”

“The preventive, therefore, is acceptance of the A.A. program and A.A. principles without any reservations. This brings us to what I call the moral issue and to what I have always believed from the first to be the essence of A.A."

“Why does this moral issue and belief in a power greater than oneself appear to be the essential principle of A.A.? First, an important comparison is found in the fact that all other plans involving psychoanalysis, will-power, restraint and other ingenious ideas have failed in 95 per cent of the cases. A second is that all movements of reform minus a moral issue have passed into oblivion.”

“Whatever may be the opinions one professes in the matter of philosophy -whether one is a spiritualist or a scientific materialist - one should recognize the reciprocal influence which the moral and physical exert upon each other. Alcoholism is a mental and physical issue. Physically a man has developed an illness. He cannot use alcohol in moderation, at least not for a period of enduring length. If the alcoholic starts to drink, he sooner or later develops the phenomenon of craving.”

“Mentally, this same alcoholic develops an obsessive type of thinking which, in itself a neurosis, offers an unfavorable prognosis through former plans of treatment. Physically - science does not know why - a man cannot drink in moderation. But through moral psychology - a new interpretation of an old idea - A.A. has been able to solve his former mental obsession. It is the vital principle of A.A., without which A.A. would have failed even as other forms of treatment have failed."

“To be sure, A.A. offers a number of highly useful tools or props. Its group therapy is very effective. I have seen countless demonstrations of how well your ‘24-hour plan’ operates. The principle of working with other alcoholics has a sound psychological basis. All of these features of the program are extremely important.”

“But, in my opinion, the key principle which makes A.A. work where other plans have proved inadequate is the way of life it proposes based upon the belief of the individual in a Power greater than himself and the faith that this Power is all sufficient to destroy the obsession which possessed him and was destroying him mentally and physically.”

“For many years I faced this alcoholic problem being sure of one scientific fact - that detoxication by medical treatment must precede any psychiatric approach. I have tried many of these orthodox psychiatric approaches and invented some new ones of my own. With some patients I would be coldly analytical, if they were of the so-called ‘scientific’ type who is apt to have a superior attitude toward anything emotional or spiritual. With others, I would try the ‘scare’ method, telling them that if they continued to drink they would kill themselves. With still others, I would attempt the emotional appeal, working both the patient and myself into a lather. He might be moved to the point of shaking hands dramatically and telling me, with tears streaming down his face, that he was never going to take another drink. And I knew that the probability was he would be drunk again within two weeks or less.”

“Since I have been working with A.A. the comparative percentage of successful results has increased to an amazing extent.”

“The percentage of success that A.A. has scored leaves no doubt that it has something more than we as doctors can offer. It is, I am convinced, your second step. Once the A.A. alcoholic has grasped that, he will have no more “slips.”

Copyright © The A.A. Grapevine, Inc., June 1945

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Reply #1 - 09/20/08  10:01pm
" If it works for you, great. For some it doesn't. There are many ways that people recover from alcohol. Hopefully we find that way. All the best. James "
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Reply #2 - 09/20/08  10:36pm
" Phil, I dont think you hear people on this site saying AA doesn't work as often as you hear people denegrating others who don't use AA. "
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Reply #3 - 09/21/08  12:05am
" Its our own fault, if we pick up the bottle... There is no one to blame but us....Regardless how we were staying sober.. I have not had a drink, in over 500 days... If I were, I would blame myself not any of my methods.... I agree with KarmicKiss, I hear people talking about how AA is really the best way to go, and putting what some would call me a dry drunk down, since I do not attend AA.. Although I am a better person, and have made changes in my life.. I am not saying all people.. I have had great support when needed here..
Peace "
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Reply #4 - 09/21/08  2:22am
" Thank you, that was amazing.

I think we need to remember it is a program of attraction rather than promotion. "
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Reply #5 - 09/21/08  9:28am
" I have never denegrating anyone who chooses not to use AA karm I found this last night on the net and I think its interesting that a doctor who treated over 10000 alkis who was at the conception of aa of what his exp was with those who go to aa and said aa fails. So i posted it here. "
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Reply #6 - 09/21/08  9:39am
" if WE pick up its our fault, WE have to make the decision that WE dont want to drink and for some no it doesnt work, because they r not ready for it to. for years i went in and out of soberity, however now i realize that for me to drink is to die, even if i remain here physically, if i drink i will surely die inside. so today i choose to not drink and that is a decision i had to make every day for the past 9 and a half months and with my HP help will continue to make the same decision for as long as i live "
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Reply #7 - 09/21/08  11:06am
" No matter how it's done,be it through AA or otherwise,if we are to get and stay sober,we need to do far more than just not drink.We must make drastic changes in our lives.The very idea that we can someday handle booze must be abandoned.My father got and stayed sober for the last 23 years of his life,and was comfortable in being so.He readily admitted he was an alcoholic.He come to believe in God.He made amends as well as he could.He tried to help others.He never attended a meeting or opened the BB.It just depends on the individual and how bad they want to live a sober life.It's all about making changes in the areas that make us want to drink.I can remember looking at an unopened bottle of booze with anticipation.I can also remember looking at one with great dread.I agree with James-however one does it isn't as important as the fact that they are doing it. "
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Reply #8 - 09/21/08  11:12am
" AA does work and alway's will work but some are too lazy to work the steps, so they try the easier softer way, with bad results. For long term happy sobriety, AA is still the best bet n the planet. "
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Reply #9 - 09/21/08  11:32am
" oh contrare monfrare.......... mike i work my butt off in sobriety, and dont currently go to AA. I like some ideas from it, and incorporate them with other stuff. I have never worked harder in my life to stay balanced, healthy and sober.
Truly. "
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Reply #10 - 09/21/08  12:46pm
" I WAS WONDERING HOW THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T GO TO AA, WHICH IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, SOMEHOW HAVE BEEN ABLE NOT TO CONTINUE DRINKING, BUT ALSO HAVE SOME SENSE ABOUT THEM AND THEIR ISSUES WITH THE DISEASE OF ALCOHOLISM. IS IT ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT MANY OF THEM WERE INFLUENCED BY THE STEPS/TRADITIONS, ONLY, AND NOT BY THE FORCE FEEDING OF THE SO-CALLED DIE HARD AAERS WHO HAVE FOUND A SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEM?

I ASKED BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME SENSE OF DEFIANCE TO THE AAERS WHO DO LIVE BY THE PRINCIPLES AND THOSE WHO CLAIM THERE ARE MANY OTHER WAYS TO GET SOBER. STOPPING DRINKING IS ONLY A SYMPTOM OF THE DISEASE, CHANGE IN ATTITUDE REQUIRES COMMITMENT OF PURPOSE. IT IS THE COMMITMENT OF PURPOSE AND THE SEQUENCE OF METHODS THAT APPEAR TO BE THE PROBLEM AND NOT THE FACT THAT SOMEONE IS OR IS NOT DOING IT THE AA WAY. ANY PURPOSE FOR ACTION IN THE SUBMISSION PROCESS OF THIS DEADLY DISEASE SHOULD BE WELCOMED BY ALL. I STILL READ AND LISTEN TO EVERYTHING, BUT FOUND FOR ME THAT AA WORKED.
IF I HAD BEEN INSURED, MAYBE THE PATH WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. I WALKED INTO THE ROOMS OF AA BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE ANY MONEY AND I WAS TOLD THAT AA WAS FREE. I SURE GOT MORE THAN I ASKED FOR AND IT DID'NT REALLY COST ME A DIME.

THE THERAPY COSTS PLENTY! PROFESSIONAL HELP IN THE DISCOVERY PROCESS OF SELF CANNOT BE DONE ALONE OR IS IT ANYWAY RECOMMENDED.

I WISH PEACE AND HARMONY TO ALL! "
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