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An old-timer with 23 years abstinence today in AA
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Must have some issues he hasn't dealt with.

He was chairing the meeting that was suppose to going until 1:00 and at about 12:59 he interrupted the person that was talking rudely and stood up and said it was time to close the meeting. People slowly got up (I didn't want to-I thought we should let the talker finish) and we closed the meeting.

This old-timer is a friend of mine and have known for almost 4 years now and he does NOT care what other people think of him to a fault.

Everyone was shocked at this and I was angry at his rudeness and how it must have looked to the new people.

It just goes to show how cocky some old-timers can get with their belief in their quality of sobriety and their "I don't give a shit what other people think of me" attitude.

He owes an apology to this man that was speaking but knowing him as I do, I doubt he will apologize.

Just goes to show that how many meetings a person has gone to and how many years of abstinence does not necessarily make a person have healthy sobriety.
Posted on 07/24/08, 06:07 pm
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Reply #51 - 07/25/08  11:49pm
" Yes it is what it's all about.

Are we having another spat Nemo that I'm unaware of this time? LOL

I'm usually quite aware but this time I'm totally getting lost.

It seems like you're telling me things that I'm not disagreeing with or denying.

Supwidat?

I wasn't putting Dewey down when I posted what he says to people that relapse. I totally *get* how new-comers can help the ones that have been there for a long time where they came from.


*confused* "
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Reply #52 - 07/26/08  12:53am
" Many subjects here in one thread.
My take:
Rude is rude.
Alcoholics tend to be ego-maniacs.
Dewey was obviously ashamed of himself.
Why did not someone come forward and call it like it was?
I would've had no problem standing up and calmly stating I thought that was rude.
Perhaps the meeting would've lasted 1.5 minutes longer with his apology before he bolted for the door.
I can just hear the next meeting he'd chair. He'd probably talk for the whole dang meeting making amends to everyone for his rudeness. Gets acclaim for his amends/admittance. Gets his ego-burst- button pushed. And he's a happy camper until he chairs again, weeks later, jonesing to get his buttocks where he wants to be.
Oh well.... "
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Reply #53 - 07/26/08  1:05am
" WhooHoo, you know your shit. I totally agree with you... You read people very well.

Nemo, I think you are a bad ass! I LOVE hearing you speak. Your gift of expression and language is always a treat for me. I wish I could down load your thoughts and language in my brain! I just can't get enough:) "
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Reply #54 - 07/26/08  1:57am
" at dreamingtree. I'm a big fan of Nemo, too.
I LOVE clever stories spoken in a clever way. "
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Reply #55 - 07/26/08  2:22am
" by the way... what constitutes an "old timer" "
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Reply #56 - 07/26/08  2:53am
" Someone who been on this earth for at least 50 years? LOL "
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Reply #57 - 07/26/08  2:56am
" My husband will be 50 next month. Do men go through weird like emotional stuff. He sure has been acting different lately. Was just wondering if it had something to do with that. "
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Reply #58 - 07/26/08  4:05am
" Angel4Hope,

I haven't noticed my husband acting weird since he turned 50, well other than becoming a baby-sitter when I was drinking, which was new to me because my drinking was new to him.

But that's probably not what you were talking about. "
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Reply #59 - 07/26/08  9:45am
" Let me try one more analogy. When I was new in AA, how people treated me was about as important as how how my fellow customers treat me when I'm standing them in line at the bank. How they behave has nothing to do with whether or not my money is safe in that bank, and we're not there to panhandle each other for small change. "
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Reply #60 - 07/26/08  12:55pm
" You're talking about how you are now in your maturity in AA Nemo. Many new people would be put off by certain behaviors, especially by an old-timer that's chairing that *hopefully* would be a shining example of recovery.

I'll use your analogy with panhandling others for small change. Somehow Dewey needed to get something from that new guy. Somehow Dewey's ego was stroked by his rudeness to the new guy or so he thought, I'm sure saw the reaction of everyone and decided he messed up in the end.

Everyone there could tell Dewey was irritated at something in the way he closed the meeting.

If I am new to banking and I'm standing in line and other customers standing in line are rude people, I'll choose to go through the drive-thru, switch banks and hope to find a bank where the *old* customers aren't so cantankerous and believe they're god-like because they have been standing in lines for so long or maybe put my money in my mattress and hope my house doesn't burn down. LOL "
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