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maybe this will sound very calous to some however its my feeling and i wanted t share. i hear so much bs in the rooms and so many others catering to those that need a swift kick in the ass. when i first found out about AA i was around alot of old timers that taught me to shit or get off the pot. its very simple if u dont want to get drunk dont pick up that first drink, and so many AAs want to tell sad stories so others will comfort them and the thing is thats ok if you are really trying to get help, however there are so many that are just looking for someone to say "all its ok, u r doing ok, and everything is ok" BS, if you want this program u have to realize that alcohol is the symptom of the problem. we r our problem and we dont make good choices nor do we really know how to live when we first come into these rooms. the program is here as a suggestion on how to live if you want things to change. if when sober you still act as u did when drinking nothing will change. our thinking is way distorted when we come into these rooms. instead of crying and trying to get everyone to feel sorry for us we need to realize that "acceptance is the answer to all my problems today" stop trying to change everything around us to fit us and change ourselves t adapt to the world, theres always going to be that one person who will try like hell to take our joy however we are in control of how we allow others to effect us. today we have a choice to either "shit or get off the pot"
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Reply #1 - 07/07/08  2:57pm
" Acceptance has to balance out with expectations. There has to be an equilibrium there, in order for that to work. I have a problem with that saying, "acceptance is the answer to all our problems today".
Sometimes your expectations must be lowered, in order to maintain a balance with acceptance. "
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Reply #2 - 07/07/08  3:14pm
" And I hear, though I don't know if it's true, that expectations are only potential resentments. "
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Reply #3 - 07/07/08  3:45pm
" Are you having trouble with acceptance? It will come if you are willing to be honest with yourself first - that is the first step. I'm sure that you will get it. There are some very supportive people here. Welcome! "
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Reply #4 - 07/07/08  4:01pm
" Yeah, a lot of people do come into the rooms being just plain old sad sacks. They aren't hard to figure out--just want to unload crap. But part of my recovery is learning to be patient with people whether I think they deserve it or not. My H.P. has certainly been patient with me. "
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Reply #5 - 07/07/08  4:03pm
" Expectations usually cause anger and disappointment for me. Acceptance, to me, is "it is what it is" how I deal with it is the deciding factor in how my day is going to go. "
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Reply #6 - 07/07/08  4:56pm
" i know im a newbie but here is my tuppunce worth,
we need the acceptance from ourselves, of who we are and what we have done otherwize we cannot move on.
sometimes we just have to hear ourselves say what is in our head to understand it.
im learning to be able to listen and empathise with others but not to take the emotions on board.. it drains energy "
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Reply #7 - 07/07/08  5:38pm
" nothing should ever be expected every day and accomplishment we have is due to GOD and if we dont expect anything and just accept things just as they r we will do just dandy. that doesnt mean we have to like whatever it is just have to find some way to except "
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Reply #8 - 07/07/08  5:40pm
" sorry i sent that too soon, see aceptance is the key we all make mistakes, any way if we just acceptance things just as they r and not for what we would like them to be things go much smoother "
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Reply #9 - 07/07/08  5:41pm
" I hear you and can agree that some people do come to meetings to "unload" menial, daily bs under the guise of the fellowship, just so someone can sign off or validate their feelings and/or actions. But I have found I need to hold back my personal opinions and judgements because I don't know what kind of day they had, if the kids or spouse was unusually grumpy, etc. ad infinatum. We are human. If it is habitual, well then there you are, someone not working the program properly. But there is someone in my fold who ALWAYS has a good message, yet goes too far. Someone told me to accept that as part of his mental disease, and I have come to deeply appreciate this man, who at times still alienates me. "
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Reply #10 - 07/07/08  6:04pm
" I gotta add Half-stepping to the title of this topic. I see some folks in the rooms that want the suggestions on the program and how it works, but turn around and do the same things expecting a different result. Doesnt work that way. people, places, and things was a biggie for me. lost my train of thought, sorry....but as magiam says "shit or get off the pot" "
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